Making Minisites.

oldtimer · 04-11-2009, 02:43 AM

Anyone here making minisites with their ccTLDs, are you all having much luck getting your minisites to rank high on the search engines. I have recently made some minisites with my .US domains and I am hoping that they get noticed soon.

www.AustinMortgage.us

www.BaltimoreMortgage.us

www.BostonMortgage.us

www.CharlotteMortgage.us

www.CincinnatiMortgage.us

www.ClevelandMortgage.us

www.ColumbusMortgage.us

www.DetroitMortgage.us

www.IndianapolisMortgage.us

www.JacksonvilleMortgage.us

www.KansasCityMortgage.us

www.LasVegasMortgage.us

www.LongBeachMortgage.us

www.LosAngelesMortgage.us

www.ManhattanMortgage.us

www.MemphisMortgage.us

www.MiamiMortgage.us

www.NashvilleMortgage.us

www.OrlandoMortgage.us

www.PhiladelphiaMortgage.us

www.PhoenixMortgage.us

www.PortlandMortgage.us

www.SanAntonioMortgage.us

www.SanFranciscoMortgage.us

www.SanJoseMortgage.us

www.SeattleMortgage.us

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Daniel Dryzek · 04-11-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by oldtimer

Anyone here making minisites with their ccTLDs, are you all having much luck getting your minisites to rank high on the search engines. I have recently made some minisites with my .US domains and I am hoping that they get noticed soon.

To be honest I am not a big fan of minisites. In my opinion it's better to focus on parking and medium and big sites rather than wasting time for minisites, which don't give additional value to a visitor and don't really give much more than parked pages full of advertisement.

It's better to make few big sites plus 50 medium sites than 500 minisites. But it's only my opinion and you can have other experiences and minisites can work better for you.

DD

peterfoti · 04-11-2009, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Dryzek

To be honest I am not a big fan of minisites. In my opinion it's better to focus on parking and medium and big sites rather than wasting time for minisites, which don't give additional value to a visitor and don't really give much more than parked pages full of advertisement.

It's better to make few big sites plus 50 medium sites than 500 minisites. But it's only my opinion and you can have other experiences and minisites can work better for you.

DD

Mini sites are always better than parking. The content alone gets you in the serps. Their is a value to the visitor if your content is solid, and adsense on quality content pages will pay more than any of those junk parking site.

Daniel Dryzek · 04-12-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by peterfoti

Mini sites are always better than parking. The content alone gets you in the serps. Their is a value to the visitor if your content is solid, and adsense on quality content pages will pay more than any of those junk parking site.

You can be right in many cases. But on other hand I heard about many domains that earned more on parking than on minisite.

DD

Rick Latona · 04-12-2009, 12:31 PM

Daniel Dryzek · 04-12-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Latona

I'm a fan. Here's a few examples across various extensions.

Do you have some statistics showing the parking revenue and revenue from minisite under the same domain name? It would be nice to know how much more we can make doing minisites

DD

DotUs · 04-12-2009, 04:18 PM

Not long to go till Aids Information will be finished,

Just waiting on a fresh set of data to be compiled and we should be good to go,and some articles to be added.

Had some good luck with Mold.us pays well.

I'll be on the hunt for a nice system that will make it easier for me to "develop" all my names.

cant have them sitting doing nothing any longer.

I was the same as you old timer,

i had every StateContractors.us name and had them all developed,

52 all in like http://floridacontractors.us/

let most of the names expire for some strange reason

but having 50 sites on the same niche, just did not work for me at that time,

i ended up sending all the traffic i could to contractor.us and constructionworld.us

kept a few of them just for the names really.

good luck.

peterfoti · 04-12-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Latona

Rick, how much of your revenue comes from these types of sites? Do you make alot of money doing it, or do you just do it to make them easily sellable?

peterfoti · 04-12-2009, 04:28 PM

Also guys, dont forget, just putting the site up there (unless it already has back links) wont get you first page google for a competitive niche. You have to do some link building and such as well.

Rick Latona · 04-13-2009, 12:06 AM

I wouldn't say they make a lot more money. It's usually a marginal difference but if you choose the right names they do make more money and they are definitely more sellable. Just don't put them on lll names or things like that. They need to be searched for keywords to benefit.

snicksnack · 04-13-2009, 12:12 AM

What is the CTR on minisites ?

Rick Latona · 04-13-2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by snicksnack

What is the CTR on minisites ?

That's a hard question to answer. What's the CTR on a parked domain? Every name is different. Generally minisites will have a lower CTR but more traffic.

silver · 04-20-2009, 11:56 PM

That is a great set of domains. Build it right, give it 2 years and you will rank everywhere.

With groups of domains like this it's all about how they are set up and interlinked. You run the risk of Google picking up on the fact that it's a template with little differences in the content among the domains.

Pick a central site name, say CityMortgage.us, and put good content there for all cities. Then set up mini sites at each URL making sure the content is sufficiently different at each and link them to the corresponding city section of the central site.

It's the master site that should rank, it's got a direct link from a url with a perfect match of the keywords searched.

GoPro.ca | Home Improvement Made Simple | Canada harnesses the power of a network of 50 generic URL's like Locksmiths.ca | Lock Hardware and Locksmiths in Canada | GoPro.ca Network. And it ranks #1 for many searches in Toronto and throughout Canada.

We have not yet tested the CityCategory.** approach but it should work in a similar manor.

Good Luck!

Rick Silver

Daniel Dryzek · 04-21-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by silver

Pick a central site name, say CityMortgage.us, and put good content there for all cities. Then set up mini sites at each URL making sure the content is sufficiently different at each and link them to the corresponding city section of the central site.

I agree with silver! I would even do it a little bit different. I would find another good generic domain name to put the central website and use all those domains you listed to help this main site get more traffic and backlinks.

DD

Alfredo · 04-21-2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by silver

Pick a central site name, say CityMortgage.us, and put good content there for all cities. Then set up mini sites at each URL making sure the content is sufficiently different at each and link them to the corresponding city section of the central site.

I usually do it with good results. Sometimes mini sites take value in traffic.

Sheldon · 04-21-2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by oldtimer

Anyone here making minisites with their ccTLDs, are you all having much luck getting your minisites to rank high on the search engines. I have recently made some minisites with my .US domains and I am hoping that they get noticed soon.
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It's not a question of if, but when this network will be banned from Google. You will have to up your minisite game, increase the quality of each informational grouping, plus make your templates different. Matt Cutts & Co. eat these types of sites for breakfast every day of the week.

Daniel Dryzek · 04-21-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheldon

It's not a question of if, but when this network will be banned from Google. You will have to up your minisite game, increase the quality of each informational grouping, plus make your templates different. Matt Cutts & Co. eat these types of sites for breakfast every day of the week.

I am also not a big fan of thousands of similar minisites bringing no value. And template is one thing but content is more important. Even minisites should have valuable content that can be useful to Internet user and it should be unique.

DD

Alfredo · 04-21-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheldon

It's not a question of if, but when this network will be banned from Google. You will have to up your minisite game, increase the quality of each informational grouping, plus make your templates different. Matt Cutts & Co. eat these types of sites for breakfast every day of the week.

If you have original and quality content, you haven't problems with the mini sites.

Daniel Dryzek · 04-21-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfredo

If you have original and quality content, you haven't problems with the mini sites.

Exactly. And template really doesn't matter. What is most important is content. But here come comes the problem too - unique and quality content isn't cheap and in my opinion it is a little bit not efficient to use such a content at minisites. It's better to build normal sites that can be really successful and attract much, much more traffic.

DD

Sheldon · 04-21-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Dryzek

I am also not a big fan of thousands of similar minisites bringing no value. And template is one thing but content is more important. Even minisites should have valuable content that can be useful to Internet user and it should be unique.

DD

The template does matter if you operate a network of websites, trust me on that.

I love quality small keyword based niche websites or minisites. If they offer your visitors valuable information and are properly constructed, you can make x100+ the revenue of a parked page. I've done it many times over, I have colleagues that have done it, it's next generation domaining without question.

However this particular example network that the OP is showing, simply put is search spam, and it will eventually be deindexed by Google.

No offense to Rick Latona, but quality risk free minisite or small site development isn't offered as a service to the general domaining public, it really can't be, it's either an in-house business model one pursues, or it's a waste of time and money. Small websites require prolonged tweaking, optimization, content updates, etc, they simply aren't static projects you float out into Google, and never touch again. If a person knows what they're doing, 500 minisites can pull down six to seven figures in annual income, but to do this you absolutely have to offer real content that will pass all of Google's sniff checks.

Alfredo · 04-21-2009, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Dryzek

Exactly. And template really doesn't matter. What is most important is content. But here come comes the problem too - unique and quality content isn't cheap and in my opinion it is a little bit not efficient to use such a content at minisites. It's better to build normal sites that can be really successful and attract much, much more traffic.

DD

We must go step by step. Mini sites aren't cheap but I prefer a mini site that a premium ccTLD without traffic.

A normal site is more expensive and brings more complications.

In my opinion it's better to make a mini site and then increase content.

Sheldon · 04-21-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfredo

In my opinion it's better to make a mini site and then increase content.

Good man, right indeed! A quality content driven minisite should be the starting point for most high budgeted development projects (with some exceptions). Doing so will dramatically reduce investment risks, and really show you the battle grid with two feet on the ground. From there it's just a scalability factor, and broadening your content and keyword pursuits. By the time this pursuit takes place, you should have an idea of what your first wave of visitors are looking for, and that in turn will allow you to pick and choose your next set of keyword and content battles (based on ad conversions vs. search competition). I love following the traffic trail in this regard, and building content out around the influx. A quick look into your traffic stats, and you can just smell the blood ($$$).

Alfredo · 04-21-2009, 08:17 PM

Exactly, Sheldon.

I have received offers from sponsors to advertise on mini sites. If you have a network of mini sites with the same topic can make good business offering all the network to the advertiser.

Daniel Dryzek · 04-21-2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheldon

A quality content driven minisite should be the starting point for most high budgeted development projects (with some exceptions).

Oh, please do not understand me wrong

I am not against starting from minisite and then evolve to a big site. That is probably the way you really should do this - see what people like and what don't etc. I was just saying that making hundreds and thousands of useless minisites with no value to its visitors would not be a good idea.

DD

Sheldon · 04-21-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Dryzek

Oh, please do not understand me wrong

I am not against starting from minisite and then evolve to a big site. That is probably the way you really should do this - see what people like and what don't etc. I was just saying that making hundreds and thousands of useless minisites with no value to its visitors would not be a good idea.

DD

I agree Daniel. Domainers who launch poor quality minisites, are domainers who end up with a huge chunk of their portfolios banned from Google. Would not be fun trying to sell these to end users, especially when they want to know why it was banned, and how to get it reincluded.

04-11-2009, 02:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
oldtimer Status: Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 24	Making Minisites. Anyone here making minisites with their ccTLDs, are you all having much luck getting your minisites to rank high on the search engines. I have recently made some minisites with my .US domains and I am hoping that they get noticed soon. www.AustinMortgage.us www.BaltimoreMortgage.us www.BostonMortgage.us www.CharlotteMortgage.us www.CincinnatiMortgage.us www.ClevelandMortgage.us www.ColumbusMortgage.us www.DetroitMortgage.us www.IndianapolisMortgage.us www.JacksonvilleMortgage.us www.KansasCityMortgage.us www.LasVegasMortgage.us www.LongBeachMortgage.us www.LosAngelesMortgage.us www.ManhattanMortgage.us www.MemphisMortgage.us www.MiamiMortgage.us www.NashvilleMortgage.us www.OrlandoMortgage.us www.PhiladelphiaMortgage.us www.PhoenixMortgage.us www.PortlandMortgage.us www.SanAntonioMortgage.us www.SanFranciscoMortgage.us www.SanJoseMortgage.us www.SeattleMortgage.us - __________________ My minisites: www.SuperLuxuryHomes.com - www.CaliforniaPersonalInjuryLawyer.US - www.NewMortgagePrograms.com - www.NycHomes.US - www.NycAreaRealEstate.com

04-12-2009, 12:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rick Latona Status: Janitor Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 224	Re: Making Minisites. I'm a fan. Here's a few examples across various extensions. Rugs \| All About Rugs \| Rugs.co.uk Boxing Gloves & Equipment \| Boxing Information \| Boxing.com.ph Ballet \| The Basics of Ballet \| Ballet.in Lawns \| Taking Care of Lawns \| Lawns.com.mx Finanzierung leicht gemacht \| Finanzierung Leicht Gemacht \| Finanzierungshilfe.de __________________ Rick Latona rick AT ricklatona.com Join the hottest newsletter in domains to find great deals. Borrow money against your names at DigiPawn.com aeiou.com is the only web development company which will add value to your names every time. Ask us why.

04-12-2009, 04:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
DotUs Status: Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 65	Re: Making Minisites. Not long to go till Aids Information will be finished, Just waiting on a fresh set of data to be compiled and we should be good to go,and some articles to be added. Had some good luck with Mold.us pays well. I'll be on the hunt for a nice system that will make it easier for me to "develop" all my names. cant have them sitting doing nothing any longer. I was the same as you old timer, i had every StateContractors.us name and had them all developed, 52 all in like http://floridacontractors.us/ let most of the names expire for some strange reason but having 50 sites on the same niche, just did not work for me at that time, i ended up sending all the traffic i could to contractor.us and constructionworld.us kept a few of them just for the names really. good luck. __________________ NEW.US Simple, Secure, Smart - Coming Soon! Last edited by DotUs; 04-12-2009 at 04:21 PM.

04-12-2009, 04:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
peterfoti Status: Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 13	Re: Making Minisites. Also guys, dont forget, just putting the site up there (unless it already has back links) wont get you first page google for a competitive niche. You have to do some link building and such as well.

04-13-2009, 12:06 AM	#10 (permalink)
Rick Latona Status: Janitor Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 224	Re: Making Minisites. I wouldn't say they make a lot more money. It's usually a marginal difference but if you choose the right names they do make more money and they are definitely more sellable. Just don't put them on lll names or things like that. They need to be searched for keywords to benefit. __________________ Rick Latona rick AT ricklatona.com Join the hottest newsletter in domains to find great deals. Borrow money against your names at DigiPawn.com aeiou.com is the only web development company which will add value to your names every time. Ask us why.

04-13-2009, 12:12 AM	#11 (permalink)
snicksnack Status: Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: China Posts: 293	Re: Making Minisites. What is the CTR on minisites ? __________________ ccTLD registration at domainer friendly prices .de €3.50 / .be € 5.0 / .co.uk €6.20 / .es €6.80 / .nl €6.20 many other good deals. .CM top level domains for Euro 70 per year.

04-20-2009, 11:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
silver Status: Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1	Re: Making Minisites. That is a great set of domains. Build it right, give it 2 years and you will rank everywhere. With groups of domains like this it's all about how they are set up and interlinked. You run the risk of Google picking up on the fact that it's a template with little differences in the content among the domains. Pick a central site name, say CityMortgage.us, and put good content there for all cities. Then set up mini sites at each URL making sure the content is sufficiently different at each and link them to the corresponding city section of the central site. It's the master site that should rank, it's got a direct link from a url with a perfect match of the keywords searched. GoPro.ca \| Home Improvement Made Simple \| Canada harnesses the power of a network of 50 generic URL's like Locksmiths.ca \| Lock Hardware and Locksmiths in Canada \| GoPro.ca Network. And it ranks #1 for many searches in Toronto and throughout Canada. We have not yet tested the CityCategory.** approach but it should work in a similar manor. Good Luck! Rick Silver

04-21-2009, 08:17 PM	#23 (permalink)
Alfredo Status: Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 593	Re: Making Minisites. Exactly, Sheldon. I have received offers from sponsors to advertise on mini sites. If you have a network of mini sites with the same topic can make good business offering all the network to the advertiser.

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