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Old 03-19-2009, 10:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default dieten.nl on Sedo

It's not my name or auction but I thought this was interesting.

https://sedo.com/auction/detail/dieten.nl/51499_us__

Looks like it's "diets.nl" without the IDN. The correct spelling, I believe is diëten.

According to Google's translate tool the dieten is Dutch for appropriations. I would think the diet traffic would be worth more, not that there are many fat people in The Netherlands.
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Old 03-19-2009, 10:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Nice domain name, thanks for posting Rick.

Will keep an close eye on this auction.
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Old 03-19-2009, 10:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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... not that there are many fat people in The Netherlands.
That's because the Dutch spend huge amounts of money on diets and related stuff. In 2007 a lady named Sonja Bakker managed to sell 1.4 million books about her diet, and that's a lot for a population of 16 million people.

I think 'dieten.nl' is a very very nice name, but in this case the singular 'dieet.nl' would be a lot better.

BTW: IDN is not used for .nl domains.
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Nice domain name, thanks for posting Rick.

Will keep an close eye on this auction.
It closes pretty soon.
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Old 03-19-2009, 11:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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That's because the Dutch spend huge amounts of money on diets and related stuff. In 2007 a lady named Sonja Bakker managed to sell 1.4 million books about her diet, and that's a lot for a population of 16 million people.

I think 'dieten.nl' is a very very nice name, but in this case the singular 'dieet.nl' would be a lot better.

BTW: IDN is not used for .nl domains.
So IDNs aren't used for .nl names but the correct spelling would be diëten correct? I've always stayed away from names that are technically misspelled if you don't have an IDN. I just felt the long-term value would erode.
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Old 03-19-2009, 11:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Forget about Dutch people and IDNs. They are not used to it. The .nl extension is the oldest ccTld in existence (cwi.nl 1-5-1986, kun.nl whois shows 1-1-1980 but that's incorrect) and IDN was never used in all those 23 years. Even when surfing a gTld like .com that has IDN support, I think 99 out of every 100 Dutch people will use plain ASCII and just forget the IDN stuff.
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Forget about Dutch people and IDNs. They are not used to it. The .nl extension is the oldest ccTld in existence (cwi.nl 1-5-1986, kun.nl whois shows 1-1-1980 but that's incorrect) and IDN was never used in all those 23 years. Even when surfing a gTld like .com that has IDN support, I think 99 out of every 100 Dutch people will use plain ASCII and just forget the IDN stuff.
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Old 03-20-2009, 12:40 AM   #8 (permalink)
 
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Rick if you go on like this you will be fluent in 20 laguages by the time of the Amsterdam conference.
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Forget about Dutch people and IDNs. They are not used to it. The .nl extension is the oldest ccTld in existence (cwi.nl 1-5-1986, kun.nl whois shows 1-1-1980 but that's incorrect) and IDN was never used in all those 23 years. Even when surfing a gTld like .com that has IDN support, I think 99 out of every 100 Dutch people will use plain ASCII and just forget the IDN stuff.
How the people search in Google??

Option 1: diëten
Option 2: dieten
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Old 03-20-2009, 01:00 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
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How the people search in Google??

Option 1: diëten
Option 2: dieten
They search for the keyword: dieten.

Dutch people don't use IDN keyboards.

Google also automatically searches for the right keyword when you search for dieten instead of diëten.

http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&q=...e+zoeken&meta=

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Old 03-20-2009, 01:15 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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I can confirm that most dutch people don't use IDN.

This does not necesarilly mean that diëten.nl would be worthless, but at this time dieten.nl would be worth a lot more than diëten.nl
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I actually started off the auction, meaning that I was bidding on the domain and instead of accepting my offer the seller sent it to auction. I am not the winner of the acution, I stopped earlier.

The domain is reasonable, but not more than that as this is actually one of the very few words in Dutch that would really need IDN. We don't have IDN because the need is very little, actually so little that we don't have the keys for it on the keybard and most users would have no clue how to make them by enterting alt-codes.
In most cases it is pretty acceptable to enter the same word in ASCII, for example cafe instead of café. However, in the case of dieten.nl the pronouncation of dieten is very different from diëten. As the latter is not available as a domain name, the singular dieet.nl would be much, much better, as mentioned above.
Arguably, the domain Dieeten.nl which is officially misspelled but at least correctly pronounced would be even better than dieten.nl
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I actually started off the auction, meaning that I was bidding on the domain and instead of accepting my offer the seller sent it to auction. I am not the winner of the acution, I stopped earlier.

The domain is reasonable, but not more than that as this is actually one of the very few words in Dutch that would really need IDN. We don't have IDN because the need is very little, actually so little that we don't have the keys for it on the keybard and most users would have no clue how to make them by enterting alt-codes.
In most cases it is pretty acceptable to enter the same word in ASCII, for example cafe instead of café. However, in the case of dieten.nl the pronouncation of dieten is very different from diëten. As the latter is not available as a domain name, the singular dieet.nl would be much, much better, as mentioned above.
Arguably, the domain Dieeten.nl which is officially misspelled but at least correctly pronounced would be even better than dieten.nl
That makes me feel a little better. I had actually bid up to 3200. Sorry Bolat.

My thinking was that almost perfect was good enough for a name like diets. It's on the list of perfect Internet business models. Services and products in the 10-50 bucks a month price point that appeal to people's insecurity.
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I actually started off the auction, meaning that I was bidding on the domain and instead of accepting my offer the seller sent it to auction. I am not the winner of the acution, I stopped earlier.

The domain is reasonable, but not more than that as this is actually one of the very few words in Dutch that would really need IDN. We don't have IDN because the need is very little, actually so little that we don't have the keys for it on the keybard and most users would have no clue how to make them by enterting alt-codes.
In most cases it is pretty acceptable to enter the same word in ASCII, for example cafe instead of café. However, in the case of dieten.nl the pronouncation of dieten is very different from diëten. As the latter is not available as a domain name, the singular dieet.nl would be much, much better, as mentioned above.
Arguably, the domain Dieeten.nl which is officially misspelled but at least correctly pronounced would be even better than dieten.nl
Agreed I would prefer Dieeten.nl as well...

Further I don't think the .nl needs IDN and I don't think SIDN will ever launch IDNs which is a good thing because I think IDN domains would only confuse people if implemented in the .nl cctld.
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That makes me feel a little better. I had actually bid up to 3200. Sorry Borat.

My thinking was that almost perfect was good enough for a name like diets. It's on the list of perfect Internet business models. Services and products in the 10-50 bucks a month price point that appeal to people's insecurity.
Ahhh it was you, i havent bought the name to wait for and enduser, i'm going to develope this one. I'm happy with the name and the price is oké but thanks to you it wasn't really cheap
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Ahhh it was you, i havent bought the name to wait for and enduser, i'm going to develope this one. I'm happy with the name and the price is oké but thanks to you it wasn't really cheap
Are there CPA programs for diet programs in Holland? If so, it would make a great arbitrage site.
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Are there CPA programs for diet programs in Holland? If so, it would make a great arbitrage site.
I'm going to brainstorm about the best way to develope this one, there are a lot of opportunities to turn this name in to a big project. You're idea is one of them, i'm going to do my homework and research to get the full potential from dieten.nl.
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Yeah, it could work that way. Sedo claimed (before the auction) that the name got around 135 visitors per month. If you have a good affiliate scheme you might be able to get 200 euro RPM which means this investment makes 10% per year. Add some development and before you know Rick and I regret that we stopped bidding
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Old 03-29-2009, 08:12 PM   #19 (permalink)
 
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If you are not successful with the domain dieten.nl on Sedo
you can also make an offer on:

AfslankGoeroe.nl (the .com-version is included)

The translation must be WeightLossGuru.

The price will be reasonable.

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Auction ended. Nice sale of EUR3300.

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