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[Hennie]

Hi All,

Great to see a .NL section here!

I am Dutch and very experienced with all aspects of Dutch domains. If you have any question about these let me know and I'll try to help you.

And of course I expect to see you all in a few months time in Amsterdam!

Regards,
Hennie

[Edwin]

Hey, Hennie, great to see you on here. I'll be at Traffic Amsterdam, so hope we can say hi there. Has the .nl market been hit by the recession?

[Hennie]

Sales prices between domainers have gone down a bit as the sellers seem to outnumber the buyers at the moment. But PPC prices and enduser sales do not seem to be affected (yet?).

[longhorn]

Thanks Hennie. Where do you think is the best place to currently park .NL domains?

[Hennie]

In general SedoPro performs best for .nl domains. I have tried many others, and sometimes you'll find a single domain performing better elsewhere, but the vast majority of my domains goes to Sedo as they give the best results.

[longhorn]

Originally Posted by Hennie

In general SedoPro performs best for .nl domains. I have tried many others, and sometimes you'll find a single domain performing better elsewhere, but the vast majority of my domains goes to Sedo as they give the best results.

Thanks, Sedo has done well for me as well.

[DomainInvesting]

Thanks for all the great info Hennie.

Can you let me know if there is any popular .nl drop-catcher? What forums are popular for discussing/buying/selling .nl domains?

Do English keywords sell for the same price as Dutch keywords?

[Hennie]

All the good drops are shared by less than a handful of Dutch domainers. Then there is an offshore company who picks up the crumbles that the domainers don't want. Very little chance to get into this for outsiders.

For the forum your best bet would be domeinforum.nl There are some other kiddie-forums where you don't want to be seen. And the real domainpro's hide in an invitation-only forum, but most also visit domeinforum.nl

English keywords are worth much, much less than Dutch keywords. Unless they are commonly used in the Dutch language which is not unusual.

[Tim]

I am also available for questions about the .nl market. I am owner of my company http://www.directwebmarketing.nl which is specialised in domain appraisals, proxy buy/sell services, drop-catching for about 4 years and i am very known with the operators of the .NL registry. Just drop me a message for help

[DomainInvesting]

Thanks Tim!

[ARMG]

Hehe yeah the .nl domaining business is a very closed one where a few big players possess all premium domains and as a dutchmen you will easier succeed in "domaining" in the international .com market rather than the .nl market.

Eventhough the .nl domains are worth pretty much there isn't a lot of trade in quality names. It's really an end user sales oriented market where only once in a while premium names do sell publicly trough the Sedo BeNeLux auctions(eventhough most sales in this auction are also end user sales )

Maybe this forum will change the .nl market and create an more open market although I doubt that to be honest. The big players are hidden in www.domeinprofs.nl and once in a while they visit www.domeinforum.nl where they most of the time fool around but do no business at all most dutch domainers will recognize what I am saying.

[bolat]

Originally Posted by ARMG

Eventhough the .nl domains are worth pretty much there isn't a lot of trade in quality names. It's really an end user sales oriented market where only once in a while premium names do sell trough the Sedo BeNeLux auctions.

There is al lot of trade in quality names, but not through Sedo etc. It is kept quietly and i dont think there is something wrong with that. It is a big market and the .nl domains are worth indeed pretty much, but you really have to have some knowledge about .nl to understand the market. I think that Hennie & Tim can answer all of you're questions with there knowledge, but if there is anything i can help you with let me know.

[ARMG]

Originally Posted by bolat

There is al lot of trade in quality names, but not through Sedo etc. It is kept quietly and i dont think there is something wrong with that. It is a big market and the .nl domains are worth indeed pretty much, but you really have to have some knowledge about .nl to understand the market. I think that Hennie & Tim can answer all of you're questions with there knowledge, but if there is anything i can help you with let me know.

Indeed that's exactly what I am saying. Unfortunately the .nl market isn't really an open/transparent market.

Even Ron Jackson can't get his hands on these private sales.

[Rick Latona]

Great thread guys. After my years living in Holand, nothing about the slick way the large Dutch domainers do their business surprises me.

[Cridea]

That point of view asks for some elaboration

[Gustavo Volcan]

I guess the .nl is all about domains, not domain traffic right?

[ARMG]

Originally Posted by Gustavo Volcan

I guess the .nl is all about domains, not domain traffic right?

Why would you think that? I hope you're not thinking .nl's don't got any traffic right?

In The Netherlands the internet user density is about 80% it has the highest density of whole Europe. There are about 16 million dutch residents which means there are about 13 million internet users.

Basically where I am trying to get is that .nl domains got great natural type in traffic and the traffic is way better than the .net. org or .info.

Conclusion: even the .nl is all about the traffic .

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by ARMG

.............

In The Netherlands the internet user density is about 80% it has the highest density of whole Europe. There are about 16 million dutch residents which means there are about 13 million internet users.

............

Well...... actually:

Currently the population of the Netherlands is about 16.5 million people with a internetpenetration that is (last year) the best of the world. We have 91% of all households connected to the internet.

Click here for the CBS research with Google Translate translation

The moment I'm writing this 3.316.941 .nl domains are registered (source: SIDN.NL)

CONCLUSION: Guys stop wasting your time on other CCTLDs... start buying our .nl domain!

(copy/paste from other thread where I put this reaction)

[Daniel Dryzek]

Hennie, Tim - where I can find some list with top sales of .nl domains?

DD

[mvl]

Namebio has a rather complete list of published sales (click) but many 4, 5 and 6 figure sales remain undisclosed.

[bolat]

The list on NameBio.com is a slight taste of what .nl has to offer.

[Hennie]

The vast majority of .nl sales goes unpublished. From my side, I like to keep it that way. I still buy much more than I sell, so I see little reason to make people aware of how valuable these domains can be.

[Daniel Dryzek]

Originally Posted by Hennie

The vast majority of .nl sales goes unpublished. From my side, I like to keep it that way. I still buy much more than I sell, so I see little reason to make people aware of how valuable these domains can be.

In Poland we do it the other way around - we try to make the market as transparent as possible Domainers try to promote aftermarket throughout the press, Internet users, companies etc.

.NL sales > $10,000

vakantie.nl (holiday) $3,200,000 2007
seks.nl (sex) $258,000 2008-12-10 sedo.com
elatiegeschenk.nl (businessgift) $111,362 2008-05-09 sedo.com
huren.nl (hire/rent) $102,856 2008-05-09 sedo.com
shoppen.nl (to shop) $69,750 2008-08-06 private sale
veiling.nl (auction) $66,627 2007-12-27 sedo.com
aed.nl $31,875 2008-11-12 sedo.com
online-casino.nl $31,654 2009-01-14 private sale
mijn.nl $25,545 2008-11-26 sedo.com
daten.nl (to date) $23,220 2008-12-10 sedo.com
marmaris.nl $18,421 2008-12-10 private sale
webmaster.nl $15,960 2007-04-17 Sedo
voeding.nl (food) $15,878 2008-04-24 sedo.com
kinderwagens.nl (prams) $15,622 2008-05-09 sedo.com
wikia.nl $14,715 2008-01-16 sedo.com
huurautos.nl (rental cars) $14,319 2008-12-10 sedo.com
onlive.nl $13,965 2009-01-14 sedo.com
planten.nl (herbs / plants) $11,600 2008-05-09 sedo.com
kapsels.nl (hairstyles) $10,965 2008-12-10 sedo.com
gays.nl $10,700 2008-10-15 afternic.com

Source: NameBio.com
Thx for the translation to Cridea.
Info regarding vakantie.nl - Lucky Luke.

Can anyone translate those domains into English?

And what I see here - there are not a lot of private sales and from my experience from Polish market, the biggest transactions are private ones So I can imagine other .NL private sales and values

DD

[snicksnack]

Can anyone translate those domains into English? - try google translation tool ;-)

[Daniel Dryzek]

Originally Posted by snicksnack

Can anyone translate those domains into English? - try google translation tool ;-)

It's not yet too perfect And I think for some native Dutch it will be 2 min work and 100% checked translation for others

DD