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[Jorge]

People say English is one of the hardest languages to learn. I wonder where Polish falls in the difficulty rankings.

http://www.polishforums.com/brief_po...18_3226_0.html confused me a bit, but I won't give up.

I know online translations services are never going to be perfect. I've registered several .pl's now, and none of them have gotten any traffic.

For example, MiejscPracy.pl. Google Translate said that's how you say "Local Jobs". But when you put that back into the translator, it says it means "employment". I'm willing to bet it means none of the above

http://www.poltran.com/ seems a little more promising, but I have a feeling the best advice is going to come from this forum. Hopefully there are a few Polish speaking members who will be willing to help those of us who are facing a very steep learning curve.

[longhorn]

Yeah its difficult because its not as simple as adding an 's' to make something plural like you can do in English.

[Daniel Dryzek]

Hi Jorge! If you want to register proper Polish domains with Polish keywords you will need help of somebody that speaks Polish fluently. Online translators can be helpful but Polish language is still too complicated for them

You should also use Google.pl to check of the word or phrase is popular or not.

DD

[Adam]

Originally Posted by longhorn

Yeah its difficult because its not as simple as adding an 's' to make something plural like you can do in English.

Hi Everybody at the new forum

Yes indeed Longhorn. More over, Polish words used to have several endings, so I don't recommend to use dictionaries for domaining. You can just waste your money in this way.
Excluding lingual issues, everyone interested in Polish domain names market should know, all premium 1-word/keyword domains are already taken (for a couple of years). Additionally, good 2-words domains are not so easy to register. But there shouldn't be any surprise about that - Poland has a regular secondary market, with a strong fight for the best names.

If you are interested in further details about .pl region, I think this ccTLD-forum seems to be a perfect place to stay in touch.

All the best,
Adam

[Jorge]

Originally Posted by longhorn

Yeah its difficult because its not as simple as adding an 's' to make something plural like you can do in English.

or "es"

Originally Posted by Daniel Dryzek

Hi Jorge! If you want to register proper Polish domains with Polish keywords you will need help of somebody that speaks Polish fluently. Online translators can be helpful but Polish language is still too complicated for them

You should also use Google.pl to check of the word or phrase is popular or not.

DD

Thanks Daniel. It was through your blog that I found active24, which has allowed me to experiment with very little investment.

Unfortunately, even google.pl can't tell me if a term I've entered is "ok" by itself or only good when used in context with the other words in the sentence.

Originally Posted by Adam

Hi Everybody at the new forum

Excluding lingual issues, everyone interested in Polish domain names market should know, all premium 1-word/keyword domains are already taken (for a couple of years). Additionally, good 2-words domains are not so easy to register. But there shouldn't be any surprise about that - Poland has a regular secondary market, with a strong fight for the best names.

That's very discouraging , but also very enlightening, so thanks for sharing.

I know ccTld's perform better in the native languages. Does .pl support this train of thought, or do English .pl's get some traffic?

Thanks!

[longhorn]

Originally Posted by Jorge

or "es"
I know ccTld's perform better in the native languages. Does .pl support this train of thought, or do English .pl's get some traffic?

Yeah I am curious about this as well if anyone has any experience out there.

[rok1978]

Originally Posted by Jorge

I know ccTld's perform better in the native languages. Does .pl support this train of thought, or do English .pl's get some traffic?

Hi there
i got some english words + .pl but the traffic on them is rather poor in compare to polish word + .pl. But it's slowly growing.

[longhorn]

Originally Posted by rok1978

Hi there
i got some english words + .pl but the traffic on them is rather poor in compare to polish word + .pl. But it's slowly growing.

Do you park them and if so how are they performing in parking versus your Polish .PL domains?

[rok1978]

Originally Posted by longhorn

Do you park them and if so how are they performing in parking versus your Polish .PL domains?

Yes, I park them on sedo and waiting for offers (nothing specially so far
I think time for these domains will come very soon, but they are still underestimated.
Traffic on them is poor unless it's expired.
Look into top 100 sales in 2008 at Daniel's blog http://danieldryzek.pl/
livecam, firstclass, coffee - it's not much.
EDIT: of course one more domain: domain*pl

[Andro]

Registering new domains is a very risky when you do not know the exact language. New domains will be registered without the traffic and easily you could make a mistake in spelling and meaning.

Much better to buy domains on the secondary market, which in Poland is growing rapidly.

[rok1978]

Originally Posted by Andro

New domains will be registered without the traffic and easily you could make a mistake in spelling and meaning.

Much better to buy domains on the secondary market, which in Poland is growing rapidly.

exactly Andro, like MiejscPracy*pl which was mentioned in this thread in first post.

[thomaso]

Originally Posted by rok1978

exactly Andro, like MiejscPracy*pl which was mentioned in this thread in first post.

MiejscPracy*pl - totally waste of money, because firstly - it's got a grammar mistake, it should be correctly MiejscaPracy*pl. Secondly, people of Poland seldom talk like "miejsca pracy" for a job, but rather "etat" or "wakat" or just "praca" - job, the "miejsce pracy" is rather place (for example bureau) where you work.

That's why before you begin investing (buying or hand registering) in some weird (and Polish is) ccTLD you should:
- do a good research on a culture and trends,
- find better dictionary than Google translate (Google translate when it was for the first time brought to Polish version, was even translating "zlotowki" (our currency) to "dollars" without recounting it and even today makes totally crap grammar mistakes.
- use a software or website that could eliminate the worst mistakes or misspelling for example Google Keywords Tool:
http://adwords.google.com/select/Keh...?defaultView=2
set to Polish language and area it can advice you the most searched form of some keyword or keywords in Google (which is almost always the most gramattically correct).

And yes, Polish language is very, very tough.

Tomasz

[Jorge]

I didn't even think of using the adwords tool. Thanks!

[NeazMH]

Never tried to learn polish though.